Mr. Graves. I will tell you how I knew Ruby. He opened a joint, a dancehall down on South Ervay called the Silver Spur something like 10 years ago, approximately. That is where I first knew Jack Ruby existed. Since that time I have just known about Jack Ruby——
Mr. Griffin. How did you know him down there?
Mr. Graves. Well, as a joint operator, you know, when you work in a uniform that is part of the business, to know who runs places.
Mr. Griffin. What bureau were you in at that time?
Mr. Graves. I was in the radio patrol bureau at that time.
Mr. Griffin. I see.
Mr. Graves. And later I learned that he opened a place out on Oak Lawn called The Vegas Club.
Mr. Griffin. Did you see Ruby in the police department over the years before that?
Mr. Graves. I have never in my entire time at that police station seen Jack Ruby in the police station. Now, it is possible Jack was down there. I know he has been in jail, but to say that he, like some people do hang around the police station, I have never seen him do that, and I have worked all hours. That still doesn’t mean that he couldn’t have been coming in there. However, with someone that worked opposite hours to me—and I wouldn’t see him, but during the time that I have been there I have never seen him hanging around the police station. You know, speculation is, is that he is a friend of the police and so forth. He might have done some policeman some favor, I don’t know that to be true, so, it would be speculating on my part to say that he was.
Mr. Griffin. How long did you remain at Parkland Hospital?