Mr. Phenix. The ramp side—I was standing on the curb there, leaning against the rail, and the camera, part of the camera sticking out over the rail.

Mr. Hubert. Now, this chart does not show the rail itself except by a marked line, but it does show two posts and I ask you if it isn’t fair to state that what you are talking about is this position that I have here?

Mr. Phenix. Yes, that’s right, because I had a clear view down to the swinging doors.

Mr. Hubert. Let’s put it this way: I’m going to mark a line from two points, one point being number three and the other point number four—that line being the space between the two main posts.

Mr. Phenix. Okay.

Mr. Hubert. Looking at the mockup, there is a rail between those two main posts, and that rail is equally divided into three parts, by two vertical posters, is that correct?

Mr. Phenix. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. If we call one of the vertical posters point number five and the other one point number six, then as I understand your testimony you were on the ramp side rather than the parking area side of the rail?

Mr. Phenix. Correct.

Mr. Hubert. And you were approximately at the point by the post marked on this chart as point number six?