Mr. Phenix. It’s a little hard to say—that camera that I was using was such that the eyepiece is on the left and I normally keep it in a ready position on my shoulder so it blocks my vision to the right, but there were maybe 10 or 15 people milling around there—some were news commentators and some were radio men with tape recorders——
Mr. Hubert. Some policemen?
Mr. Phenix. Some policemen.
Mr. Hubert. Would you judge there were 18 to 20 people along in there?
Mr. Phenix. It could be.
Mr. Hubert. By the way, how long were you in that position No. 6 prior to the time of the shooting?
Mr. Phenix. Probably at least an hour—I just didn’t want to leave it, and we didn’t know at what exact time he was coming down.
Mr. Hubert. What about the condition of the people and the numbers thereof to your left from position No. 6?
Mr. Phenix. Well, there were many more—as we got ready to bring Oswald out, policemen lined this wall here and formed a line coming out of the swinging doors, and then the newsmen were back at position two mainly.
Mr. Hubert. Suppose we mark a line and we will call that line—let’s say starting at No. 7 in a circle, and moving and turning towards Commerce Street to point 8, roughly.