“I expect it doesn’t matter. I thought about it later. It doesn’t mean anything, I don’t suppose, unless it has some sentimental value to him.” Now, the next sentence and the next few lines which go over to page 68, do not seem to refer to the matter which in that quoted sentence you designated as “having some sentimental value.” Now, I invite your attention to lines 15 through 22 on page 68 and ask you to read those lines.

Mr. Graves. Starting with Mr. Griffin?

Mr. Hubert. No; starting with your answer.

Mr. Graves. “We asked him——”

Mr. Hubert. No; don’t read them out loud, just read them to yourself.

Mr. Graves. [Read deposition as requested by Counsel Hubert.]

Mr. Hubert. Now, I ask you if the thought contained in your testimony at page 68 between lines 15 and 22 does not relate to the matter which you had characterized as something having a sentimental value to him on lines 22 thru 24 on page 67?

Mr. Graves. That’s what I had reference to.

Mr. Hubert. Would it be fair to say, then, that there was no more to the conversation off the record than the subject of something that had a sentimental value, and that the thing that did have sentimental value was explained by you in your answer on page 68 between lines 15 and 22?

Mr. Graves. Not only would it be fair, but it would be truthful, because that’s exactly what happened.