Mr. Turner. That’s right, he was slowly moving.
Mr. Hubert. And his movement was from what direction?
Mr. Turner. He was going forward.
Mr. Hubert. Well, he was coming from what?
Mr. Turner. From down the ramp.
Mr. Hubert. Is there any possibility that his movement could have been through the rail at this point that I am marking?
Mr. Turner. That’s right, because it is—here is my opinion——
Mr. Hubert. At a point——
Mr. Turner. Let’s see. “11,” “12,” “14,” “15.”
Mr. Hubert. Let’s say approximately “15,” by the rail?