Mr. Turner. Correct, sir.

Mr. Hubert. And you do that because you place him at the point where the ramp begins to go up?

Mr. Turner. That’s right.

Mr. Hubert. Now, using this scale, which appears on the mockup, I would ask you to verify this with me.

Mr. Turner. All right.

Mr. Hubert. That the incline begins almost exactly 13 feet——

Mr. Turner. Beyond the rail, I mean where the start of the rail is.

Mr. Hubert. Thirteen feet from the start of the rail on the Main Street ramp?

Mr. Turner. That’s right, sir, this would be our location here where he eventually——

Mr. Hubert. Therefore, am I correct in saying there was approximately 13 feet of rail through which Ruby could have come prior to the time you saw him at position number “10”?