Mr. McKinzie. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. When?

Mr. McKinzie. Around 10 o’clock is when I got orders to carry it to the first floor and cut it off and not bring any passengers down to the basement until I got further permission from the police department, and I was off of it then, I was still on the first floor, I just wasn’t operating it.

Mr. Hubert. Did you leave the elevator itself?

Mr. McKinzie. Sir?

Mr. Hubert. Did you leave the elevator itself and walk some place else?

Mr. McKinzie. Just down the hallway.

Mr. Hubert. Were the doors of the elevator open then?

Mr. McKinzie. It was open, but it was cut off. I had it automatic, and I had it cut off with the key. Couldn’t nobody——

Mr. Hubert. Now, that really has two doors in it, doesn’t it?