Mr. McKinzie. They got to leave it open, or either carry the key to come back in.
Mr. Hubert. How did they leave it open?
Mr. McKinzie. They just walk out on the little ramp. The garbage cans is sitting right by the building, and they just, oh, about 4 feet from the door is about all, or 5 feet from the door is all they have to walk. They mostly have that trash in a sack, and just throw it in the corner and right back in the building.
Mr. Hubert. All right; now, after you had been told not to bring the elevator down to the basement any more, did you follow those orders?
Mr. McKinzie. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert. And you never brought the elevator down at all any more?
Mr. McKinzie. No, sir; not until—well, I know it was 11:30, probably 12 o’clock.
Mr. Hubert. It was after the shooting?
Mr. McKinzie. Yes, sir; it was after the shooting.
Mr. Hubert. And you want to say now that that elevator never came down to the bottom floor all the time?