Mr. Hubert. Can’t you at all times use those doors to get into the staircase and go either up or down?
Mr. Pierce. When you say “those doors,” you are referring to the single door on each stairway, of which there are two, or still speaking of a one single door which leads to the stairway which goes down to the basement?
Mr. Hubert. To the basement, the other two do not go down into the basement. It is the single—that is what I mean, when I said you would have to leave the first floor and go down into the basement, you could take that stairway, so that a person getting into the main floor, can get to the police basement by using that stairway?
Mr. Pierce. That’s right. He can come down it and go out, but he cannot leave the basement area and go up, because it is always locked. The entrance to the building is locked. That door is always locked.
Mr. Hubert. But, going the other way, that is to say, from the main building down to the basement via that staircase, you would need no key, and that door is open all the time?
Mr. Pierce. Right, sir.
Mr. Hubert. Even on weekends?
Mr. Pierce. Right, sir. That is one of the other means?
Mr. Hubert. Well, that leaves, I think, one other entrance to the municipal building, and the entrance in the back on the alleyway. Now, are you familiar with that entrance and that door?
Mr. Pierce. Yes, sir.