Mr. Pierce. Now, that door is normally locked on weekends.

Mr. Hubert. Always locked on weekends.

Mr. Pierce. Unless, inadvertently, someone left it open. It is supposed to be—and it is all the time when I am on duty, it is locked. Because I don’t want any——

Mr. Hubert. Was it locked on November 24, all the time?

Mr. Pierce. It was locked.

Mr. Hubert. You were in charge of it, and you say that it was locked?

Mr. Pierce. Yes. Now, with this reservation being that the head porter, our—Mr. Servance, also has a key to that door, because the porters’ quarters, their locker room area and quarters, what we refer to as quarters generally is on the outside of that door in the police and courts building proper, and to get to it—their duties and in this garage area here, and in the municipal building, they are required to go in and out of that door to get their assigned jobs. He has a key, and when I say, “to my knowledge it was locked,” the only reservation is that at sometime he was there and present in that area, and it was locked unless opened by him, or a porter who was working.

Mr. Hubert. So, if a person could get into this subbasement, he could go very easily into the basement, itself?

Mr. Pierce. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. No locked door between them?