Mr. Pierce. That is where they were required to stay. That is where they spent the remainder of their time, because they could not come back and rejoin us.
Mr. Hubert. Do you know how they left that building to get to the police recreation room?
Mr. Pierce. From the elevator area here—let’s see; no, I don’t know if they walked directly across to a stairway there, another stairway that goes to the police locker lounge other than the stairway we are speaking of, comes from Commerce Street down to the subbasement itself, and in the building. A stairway which policemen use all the time to go down to the lockers.
Mr. Hubert. You mean from the municipal building?
Mr. Pierce. No; from the garage area.
Mr. Hubert. From the garage area, right.
Mr. Pierce. But, from the municipal building that is not so. From being required to stay there and unable to even leave there, even now, like I said, I can’t possibly state there was no one else there, but I do know they weren’t in this area, because they were supposed to be—stay where they were and——
Mr. Hubert. Do you know how they got out of the municipal building that they were in with you to get to the police room, from your own knowledge? Not what somebody else told you, but from your own knowledge?
Mr. Pierce. From my own knowledge; no, sir. I don’t know. Now, there was a small interval of time elapsed when we first left the basement area here on the elevator and came up to the first floor. McKinzie was the operator of the elevator, which has a buzzer system on it for calling, and as such, is required to answer calls to whatever floor the personnel is calling for elevator service there, because that is the only elevator in operation, and he did answer a call or two probably from the phone operators up on five, like I say, when we left the basement area and went up to one, he was there, too, and in that small interval of time, I would say about 10 minutes, he came back and reparked the elevator there on one and said that—told me that a policeman had told him not to answer any more calls on that elevator. To even remove the elevator completely from the basement area, and don’t answer any more calls until notified later. And that—and that elevator stayed there then at that point there is one of the things that entered my mind a while ago when you were speaking of—about the elevator being shut off, and the operator can turn a switch and turn it out of service, and he brought up the elevator and told me, and Servance was there, at the time, and Servance is his immediate boss, and told Servance that he had been instructed not to answer any more calls on that elevator.
Mr. Hubert. Now, I asked you whether or not you know how Riggs and Fuqua got out of the building? What way they used to get out of the building?