Mr. Leavelle. That, I don’t know. Of course, you are—according to one of my previous reports I earlier suggested to Captain Fritz that we make the suggestion to the chief that we take him out to the first floor and put him out at Main Street to a car and proceed to the county jail that way and leave them waiting in the basement and on Commerce Street, and we could be to the county jail before anyone knew what was taking place.
Mr. Hubert. What time did you make that suggestion, sir?
Mr. Leavelle. That was either just before or just after—probably just after I had gone there and got Oswald and we were talking about the transfer.
Mr. Hubert. Who did you make that suggestion to?
Mr. Leavelle. I made it to Captain Fritz.
Mr. Hubert. What answer did you receive from him?
Mr. Leavelle. Said he didn’t think the chief would go for it.
Mr. Hubert. Did he say why?
Mr. Leavelle. Because, he said, the chief had given his word to the press that they would transfer him at a time when they could make pictures.
Mr. Hubert. Did you convey that same idea to the chief, himself, or to anyone other than Fritz?