Mr. Hubert. But you don’t know from your own knowledge?

Mr. Servance. After the excitement came and hollering of the elevators—I mean the sirens going we were watching the armored car being backed to the entrance of that—cars coming out of there from the basement and if they did, I didn’t know it, I mean, I can’t recall it. There is a possibility, but actually to say, I couldn’t say it.

Mr. Hubert. They were in uniforms, too?

Mr. Servance. Yes, sir; they were in uniforms and working around there. In fact, Riggs was in both of the buildings, you know. He was a porter there that day for certain, and he had access of those things. What he did—I mean, I only seen him there, and he disappeared, I didn’t notice it.

Mr. Hubert. There is one other way you can go down from the municipal building to the basement, and that is through the fire escape, that is to say, the door to the main floor of the municipal building is not locked, and you can get to the staircase that way, can’t you?

Mr. Servance. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. And the door at the bottom of the stairway, which is the entrance of the basement is always open so that you can get into the basement?

Mr. Servance. Not the weekends. You have to—you can come out, but you can’t go in.

Mr. Hubert. That’s what I mean. You can go in from the municipal building. You can go through the fire escape doors?

Mr. Servance. That’s right.