Mr. Eberhardt. Well, he said that he—he called me by my middle name—he said, “It is hard to realize that a complete nothing, a zero like that, could kill a man like President Kennedy was.” He said that, “It is hard to understand how a complete nothing,” that is what he referred to him as, “a complete nothing could have done this,” and then he left, and then I didn’t notice where he went.

Mr. Griffin. Now, do you remember anything else that was said in these 5 or 10 minutes that he was in there?

Mr. Eberhardt. No; he just asked me how I was doing, how my wife and children are, which he always did any time he seen anybody.

Mr. Griffin. All right. Now——

Mr. Eberhardt. I was trying to recall about this lapel deal and give it a lot of thought, and I can’t remember visually what he had on his lapel, but I do remember him taking his notebook and hitting his lapel, and he said, “I am here as a reporter,” and he took the notebook and hit like that. He had something on his coat, but I can’t visualize now what it was. I did not get one of his kosher sandwiches, either.

Mr. Griffin. You didn’t. Did he show them to you?

Mr. Eberhardt. No; I never did ask the man anything about them.

Mr. Griffin. Is it because of his statement about the kosher sandwiches that you place the time as between 6 and 7 p.m.?

Mr. Eberhardt. Well, I had already eaten. That is why I placed the time around there in the evening.

Mr. Griffin. Well, could it have been as late as 10:30 or 11?