Mr. Eberhardt. Yes. They had us on standby. I did paper work, caught up on supplements. They held us over a little bit, and then we had the press conference. When they brought Oswald in, we stood with him, myself and a couple of other detectives.

Mr. Griffin. You stood next, right next, to Oswald for the purpose of guarding him?

Mr. Eberhardt. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. And were you able to look out over the crowd?

Mr. Eberhardt. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. Now, where did you see Ruby in the crowd?

Mr. Eberhardt. He was on the right-hand side of the room standing up on one of the tables with a notebook and pencil in his hand, with all of the reporters and cameramen out there. They were facing us. They were in the assembly room.

Mr. Griffin. Who were the other people guarding?

Mr. Eberhardt. There was a whole line, a whole line in front of the showup. I was standing about three people removed behind Oswald. I was standing behind Oswald and the reporters were shooting questions at them.

Mr. Griffin. Was he seated?