Mr. Eberhardt. About 5 minutes after he left.

Mr. Griffin. Did you and Cody leave together?

Mr. Eberhardt. No.

Mr. Griffin. Did you sign out of the building or anything?

Mr. Eberhardt. No; we don’t sign out. I just left, got in my car and went home.

Mr. Griffin. Did Cody remain in there after you did?

Mr. Eberhardt. I don’t know. I lost him in the shuffle. I stood over there by Johnny, the news reporter up there in the pressroom at the city hall, is who I stood by while the conference was going on. He asked a couple of questions. I couldn’t tell you what questions he asked. No; there was no semblance of order. Those reporters just holler out anything that comes in their mind, and whoever shouts the loudest is whoever gets the answer, is how it works.

Mr. Griffin. If Ruby had said something while you were in there, would you have been close enough to Henry Wade or to Ruby to have heard it?

Mr. Eberhardt. I don’t know where Ruby was, so I couldn’t answer that.

Mr. Griffin. Well, you said at this press conference you saw Ruby standing back——