Mr. Hubert. Were any newsmen down in the station?

Mr. Leavelle. Beg your pardon?

Mr. Hubert. Were there any newsmen down in the basement?

Mr. Leavelle. In fact, when I walked out one of the newspapermen asked me when we were going to transfer Ruby and I said, “Oh, I don’t know.” And just like that, and walked on.

Mr. Hubert. You had Ruby with you?

Mr. Leavelle. You mean—oh, no; the officers and I walking down. When we brought Ruby down in the jail elevator, that elevator is never in view of the public. It is an inside elevator. Never in view of the public, so, anyway, after talking to the captain, I set my watch with his and said, “Be there at exactly 11:15.”

So, he set his watch with mine and we brought Ruby down. That is the reason—I got down there about a minute and a half, 2 minutes early to the basement and told the lieutenant on duty, told everybody not to ring for the elevator that we would have it tied up, just held him in the elevator.

Mr. Hubert. Kept Ruby in the elevator?

Mr. Leavelle. Kept Ruby in the elevator. Mr. Brown standing outside of the jail office, Mr. Beck had his car, his motor running in the parking basement, and Mr. Brown was standing there talking to one of the men in the jail office just as though he was passing the time of day, and he was to give me the nod as soon as the captain’s car pulled in on the ramp, which he did.

Mr. Hubert. Which side did he pull in on?