Mr. Hubert. Did you know a man by the name of Ralph Paul?

Mrs. Carlin. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. What was your understanding of his relation to Jack Ruby or to the Carousel?

Mrs. Carlin. Well, as I understood it, I met him in the office of Jack Ruby, and he was supposed to be a friend from Chicago that had known him, and he just introduced me as Ralph. And the only thing I knew was that he was a friend of Jack Ruby’s. I didn’t know he had any connection with the club at all.

Mr. Hubert. You don’t know now?

Mrs. Carlin. No.

Mr. Hubert. Did you see this gentleman Ralph Paul only once?

Mrs. Carlin. Yes. Before the killing of the President, I only saw him once. But after that, I saw him all the time. He came in all the time.

Mr. Hubert. You mean he was actually operating the club after?

Mrs. Carlin. Yes, afterwards.