Mr. Griffin. When you got inside the building, where did you go?
Mr. Graves. I went to the homicide and robbery bureau on the third floor, room 317.
Mr. Griffin. When you got up into the hallway on the third floor, can you describe the condition of the hallway?
Mr. Graves. Well, of course, it was cluttered up with camera equipment and cables and newspeople, cameramen.
Mr. Griffin. Do you remember when you arrived there on the third floor, whether the TV cameras were manned?
Mr. Graves. Reasonably sure they were. There were men standing around with earphones on and the light.
Mr. Griffin. Now, do you recall about what time it was that you got up there to the third floor?
Mr. Graves. Approximately 8 o’clock, I think or——
Mr. Griffin. That is in the morning?
Mr. Graves. Yes.