Mrs. Pitts. Said he was going out, he would try to be back by 2. That is what he told me. He says, “You call me before.” That is what he told me.

Mr. Hubert. Did he tell you when he was going out, Mrs. Pitts?

Mrs. Pitts. No, sir; didn’t tell me, says, “I am going out.” That is what he says, and I says to him, I says, “If you are going to have company or something”—I says, “I can wait and come tomorrow.” He said, “Oh, no; you come on.”

Mr. Hubert. Can you fix a little better for us the time that this conversation took place?

Mrs. Pitts. It was after 8 o’clock, was way after 8, but just to tell the truth——

Mr. Hubert. You say “Way after 8,” you mean way after 8 on the way to 9?

Mrs. Pitts. Well, I imagine somewhere around 8:30, then, I guess it was.

Mr. Hubert. It wasn’t after 9?

Mrs. Pitts. No, sir; it wasn’t after 9.

Mr. Hubert. How can you be sure about that? Is there anything that you remember that makes you say it was not before 8 but afterward, and not before 9?