Mr. Griffin. Do you remember whether or not, Lee Oswald was there?
Mr. Graves. He wasn’t there when I first got there in the room.
Mr. Griffin. When you got into the room, do you remember talking with anybody?
Mr. Graves. I don’t remember who I talked with first, when I got there.
Mr. Griffin. Do you remember having any conversation with anyone regardless of who it might have been, after you got up there, shortly after you arrived?
Mr. Graves. Well, the only conversation I recall actually, is when we were told to bring him down, Oswald down to the captain’s office. Now, the rest was routine stuff.
Mr. Griffin. How long after you arrived would be your best estimate that you were told to bring Oswald down to the captain’s office.
Mr. Graves. Well, let’s see, we would have a thing to show the exact time that I signed him out. At somewhere shortly before 10 o’clock, which would be something over an hour, better part of 2 hours——
Mr. Griffin. In this period from approximately 8 o’clock until shortly before 10, did you have any conversations about the movement of Lee Oswald from the city jail to the county jail?
Mr. Graves. Well, the captain told us that he would be transferred in a car.