Mr. Smart. They were talking to Sam Pierce.
Mr. Griffin. Yes; and do you remember which of the men you heard——
Mr. Smart. No, sir.
Mr. Griffin. Making this statement? How would they—would you have heard this on the 24th, on the day that Ruby shot Oswald, or was it sometime later?
Mr. Smart. I don’t remember, Mr. Griffin, now.
Mr. Griffin. You remember that there were a number of rumors that began circulating right at the beginning, one that he came down the ramp, one that he pushed a TV camera in, another one was that he used a press pass, another one is that he got out of a police car?
Mr. Smart. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. Now, had you heard, are you able to remember whether you have heard, any or all of these rumors on Sunday when you were there?
Mr. Smart. No, sir; I can’t. I just heard them somewhere around there, heard somebody—they weren’t talking even to me, I don’t think. Just discussing it or something.
Mr. Griffin. Let me take this off of the record.