Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mr. Montgomery. Oh, I would say probably 5 or 10 minutes, because I know after he left they went ahead and put the sweater and shirt on Oswald and handcuffed him and everything, so, I imagine at least 5 or 10 minutes.

Mr. Griffin. When you approached the jail office door, what happened?

Mr. Montgomery. Captain Fritz stepped out into this door leading out to the ramp, and, of course, I didn’t—I could not hear who he was talking to or what he said, but just stepped back and told us, “Come on.”

Mr. Griffin. And then what happened?

Mr. Montgomery. Then we walked out the door there to—well, walked out to where—well, where the shooting happened, and we had to stop, because our car wasn’t in position.

Mr. Griffin. Did you actually stop or did you slow up?

Mr. Montgomery. No—well, we may have just slowed up, I guess. We just slowed up because it was only things like just there a second.

Mr. Griffin. Now, as you slowed up, did you get a look at the news media?

Mr. Montgomery. Didn’t get much of a look at anything.