Mr. Hubert. Did you see him there after that day?
Mr. Smith. Now I think I did, and I am not sure. But this is the same man. The third time was in a crowd, and I could tell you pretty well what time this was, because KRLD put a camera in front of our truck at approximately 10 a.m. That is another guess. But they had time to turn that camera on and get it warm before all the news broke, so it had to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 or maybe before. But after that camera was set up, KRLD had a couple of engineers out there lining up the camera.
Mr. Hubert. That was on Commerce Street with the camera facing down into the Commerce Street ramp of the building, I take it?
Mr. Smith. They had this thing facing—you see, our truck wasn’t up to the ramp. There was room for a car almost between our truck and the ramp. Now they had this camera in that space right directly in front of our truck there, and they had a man standing on the sidewalk lining up their camera.
And this TV camera, it always draws a crowd, and at this time there was quite a few people just standing around. But this man that I am talking about, I am almost certain, was standing on the other side of the ramp.
Mr. Hubert. Of the Commerce Street ramp?
Mr. Smith. Yes; on the sidewalk, in a group of people, just standing there watching the proceedings.
Mr. Hubert. Do you recall the time at which the police moved all of the people from the police department side of Commerce Street over to the other side?
Mr. Smith. No; I don’t. Someone asked me that before. I don’t remember that taking place. You see, I was never told anything about the move. I was inside the truck, so I didn’t have any connection with that.
Mr. Hubert. Now when you saw this man, or think you did, possibly did, the third time, had you come out of your truck?