Mr. Griffin. Did you hear anybody say anything?

Mr. Montgomery. There was—just fixing to say there was just kind of a roar, you know, people hollering and everything.

Mr. Griffin. Before you heard this shot, did you hear anybody say anything?

Mr. Montgomery. All these newspaper reporters were hollering, “Why did you shoot the President?” And all that stuff.

Mr. Griffin. Off the record.

(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Griffin. Back on the record. Now, what did you say happened when you heard the shot?

Mr. Montgomery. Well, Officer Graves was on Oswald’s left and I went around Officer Graves to try to help get—and, of course, when I got around there several officers had hold of him, and I grabbed him around the throat, and was applying a choke hold on him, and, of course, we drug him off to one side over on the cement there on the ramp.

Mr. Griffin. What kind of struggle was he putting up?

Mr. Montgomery. He was putting up a struggle—with so many officers on him, it wasn’t too much, could have—couldn’t have been too much.