Mr. Griffin. Did Martin say anything to you about Jack?

Mr. Senator. I don’t think so. I don’t remember. I don’t think so.

Mr. Griffin. Did he indicate whether or not he had seen Jack while you were being interrogated by the police?

Mr. Senator. If I remember right, I think he said he seen him at a glance behind us, I think it was the same window that I saw. They had him in this room there and I think there were three or four men there, something like that, but there was this glass partition. In other words, you could see in. I think he saw him. I am not sure but I think he saw him.

Mr. Griffin. Was Tom Howard at the TV Bar at that time?

Mr. Senator. I don’t remember. I remember there was Jim, there was this other attorney, but I don’t remember if Tom was or not. In other words, I don’t want to quote and say he was or wasn’t because I just don’t remember. He may have been now. He may have been there. I just can’t think if he was or not that night. He may have been.

Mr. Griffin. Do you remember what your conversation was about at the TV Bar?

Mr. Senator. No; of course, I told him—he asked me what happened, you know. I told him I was interrogated by the local police and the FBI.

Mr. Griffin. Did you talk about Jack’s defense?

Mr. Senator. No.