Mr. Senator. No, no. See, he is in business in a little sort of a garage like in the back of his house. In the back of his house he has got this sort of garage-like thing.

Mr. Griffin. Who are you talking about?

Mr. Senator. The fellow that had it.

Mr. Griffin. Do you remember what his name was?

Mr. Senator. I should remember his name. I can’t even think of his name right now.

Mr. Griffin. All right, maybe you will think of it later. Did Seder and St. Charles have another business which they operated while they——

Mr. Senator. Yes; this business was a small little thing.

Mr. Griffin. This was a sideline with them?

Mr. Senator. Just a little thing. It wasn’t even, you know—it was a small little business.

Mr. Griffin. What was Seder’s main business?