Mr. Griffin. You would stand on it?
Mr. Senator. Strictly stand on it, and it was a novelty.
Mr. Griffin. And the bottom part would remain stationary?
Mr. Senator. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. And the other part would swivel as you moved on it?
Mr. Senator. That is right. In other words, instead of going in the twist, this thing did it for you. In other words, you revolved and, of course, this was classified as an exerciser, or something of that nature. As I say, it never got off the ground.
Mr. Griffin. To your knowledge, nobody else was involved in the promotion of it with Jack?
Mr. Senator. No; definitely not; no.
Mr. Griffin. How about John Newman? Do you recognize that name?
Mr. Senator. John Newman works for the Herald or the Times, the Herald or the News. He works for either the Dallas Morning News—I forgot now—or the Herald.