Mr. Senator. I don’t know which union.
Mr. Griffin. Was he friendly with Jack?
Mr. Senator. I don’t know, because I have only seen the man one time in my life, and the time that I saw him I was introduced to him, not knowing who he was, down at the courthouse, at the courthouse.
Mr. Griffin. Was that at the trial or the bail bond hearing, or something like that?
Mr. Senator. It was at this trial here, in the lobby.
Mr. Griffin. The Ruby trial?
Mr. Senator. Yes; I saw him in the lobby once. That is the only time I ever seen the man.
Mr. Griffin. But you had never seen him before?
Mr. Senator. No; I had never seen him.
Mr. Griffin. And you had never heard Jack speak of him?