Mr. Senator. No; not to my knowledge.

Mr. Griffin. But have you talked with St. Charles since Ruby shot Oswald, and have you learned from St. Charles that he was unaware of the twistboards?

Mr. Senator. I have seen St. Charles exactly one time since then.

Mr. Griffin. What prompted you to make the statement that St. Charles didn’t know anything about the twistboard?

Mr. Senator. I would probably say, to the best of my knowledge, he didn’t know anything about the twistboard.

Mr. Griffin. You would be surprised if he did?

Mr. Senator. If he did, I can’t say. It is possible that he did, but I would say, to the best of my knowledge. I can’t say positively. I don’t think he did. Now, I don’t know.

Mr. Griffin. Turning over page 1, look at the names there. There are two names at the bottom of the page. You testified about Abe Klinman.

Mr. Senator. Yes, the attorney. That is Earl Ruby, and Ed Pullman, which I mentioned before to you.

Mr. Griffin. Yes.