Mr. Senator. I don’t think so. That is his son, I think. I don’t think so.

Mr. Griffin. Let me ask you, George, have you ever belonged to any political organizations?

Mr. Senator. Never, never.

Mr. Griffin. I don’t simply mean by that the Democratic Party or the Republican Party, but any kind of organization which was interested in some public issue, or something.

Mr. Senator. No.

Mr. Griffin. What was your practice with respect to using Jack’s telephone?

Mr. Senator. What was what?

Mr. Griffin. Your practice with respect to using Jack Ruby’s telephone at home. I take it you used it to make local calls.

Mr. Senator. Once in a while; yes. I am not sure.

Mr. Griffin. Did you make long-distance calls, telephone calls, from Jack’s home?