Mr. Senator. Joe Slayton; yes, sir. Now I don’t think I knew who it was then, who his partner was. “Senator can state only that he believes Ruby to be the sole owner and operator of the present Carousel Club.”

Now there was a backer and I knew him well, but I didn’t know the conditions.

Mr. Griffin. Were you reluctant at the time you talked to the FBI to disclose this?

Mr. Senator. No. You mean to hold back on them?

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mr. Senator. That is the way it sounds when you say that.

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mr. Senator. No, no; I wasn’t. As well as I knew him I didn’t know the formality of what he had to the Carousel as many times as he came there. I didn’t know what his status was in it. I knew there was a close—I mean he had a close relationship with Jack. He knew him well.

“Ruby actively managed the Carousel Club although he still as far as Senator knows owns the Vegas Club,” which we know different now.

Mr. Griffin. Do you want to go on to the next page?