Mr. Crafard. I believe it was something about, had something to do with who was in charge of the band at the Carousel or the Vegas Club or something of that sort. I am not positive.

Mr. Griffin. How about the time that you think you saw him at the Vegas Club.

Mr. Crafard. I believe one night when I went over with Jack he was there. He played at the Vegas Club. I am trying to get it straight. I think he was a guitar player. No; wait a minute, a horn player, saxophone player I believe it was. And this buddy of his, they had an act where the buddy lay down across two chairs and he stepped up on his buddy’s chest and he stood on his buddy’s chest playing his horn.

I believe that was Bobby Patterson. I am not positive.

Mr. Griffin. Could this guy have been a police officer?

Mr. Crafard. No; I am very doubtful of that.

Mr. Griffin. You didn’t know any Bobby Patterson who was a police officer?

Mr. Crafard. No.

Mr. Griffin. And there is no question that you had met a guy named Bobby Patterson.

Mr. Crafard. No question there; no.