Mr. Hubert. Have you ever, yourself, been convicted of any felony?

Mr. Ruby. No; never.

Mr. Hubert. Did you have any business dealings at all with Jack prior to 1933, that is to say, prior to the time you moved to the west coast?

Mr. Ruby. Business dealings? No; because I was going to school then. I was in grammar school and high school.

Mr. Hubert. In 1933 actually you were 18.

Mr. Ruby. Yes; I was in high school.

Mr. Hubert. What about your business associations with Jack after his return from the west coast, until you went into the service? Did you have any?

Mr. Ruby. Yes. We worked together for, oh, I think maybe a year. He and another fellow, I think his name is Harry Epstein, organized the Spartan Novelty Co., which has been out of business for many years.

Mr. Hubert. Was that a corporation?

Mr. Ruby. No; it was just a small company, very.