Mr. Hubert. Is Epstein still living?
Mr. Ruby. Still living? Oh, yes.
Mr. Hubert. Where?
Mr. Ruby. In Chicago.
Mr. Hubert. What business is he in?
Mr. Ruby. He sells, manufactures and sells—what would you call that—I think onyx desk sets. I did have business dealings then. Do you want me to go on now?
Mr. Hubert. I wanted to ask you about a trip that I think you took to Seattle in 1941. Do you remember that?
Mr. Ruby. Seattle?
Mr. Hubert. Washington; yes.
Mr. Ruby. Seattle in 1941. In 1942 in the service, 1942.