Mr. Hubert. You know, do you not, that Jack did the same thing about the same time?

Mr. Ruby. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. Was that coordinated with him, too?

Mr. Ruby. No; I don’t think so. In our conversations in telling him that we were doing it, maybe he decided to do it, but I don’t know if it had any bearing at all.

Mr. Hubert. What was the reason for the change of name?

Mr. Ruby. Well, first, everybody called me Ruby, even in the service, and wherever I went they called me Ruby, so that was one of the reasons to change it.

Mr. Hubert. After Jack left did you and Sam continue in business?

Mr. Ruby. Oh, yes.

Mr. Hubert. For how long?

Mr. Ruby. For possibly 8 or 9 years, anyhow.