Mr. Hubert. The brother of your best friend?
Mr. Ruby. Yes. In fact, he was instrumental in my getting the other job for Worldwide Music because he knew one of the—he was in the dry cleaning business, George Marcus has today one plant in Marion, Ind. and one plant in Benton Harbor, Mich., and has a brother-in-law running each one. And we had been friends for about 25 or 30 years, and he approached me with the idea of going into business with him in another cleaning plant if we could locate a good one. You know, buy a going business, of course, and I was very much interested.
Mr. Hubert. That is Marcus?
Mr. Ruby. Yes; Marcus I am speaking of.
Mr. Hubert. In other words, your best friend was his brother?
Mr. Ruby. Right.
Mr. Hubert. But you were friendly with him for 25 years?
Mr. Ruby. Yes, sir; yes. In fact, he originally helped me get started when I first came out of service. I had no money to speak of.
Mr. Hubert. That is Marcus?
Mr. Ruby. Marcus, and he lent me $500, I think, to get started.