Mr. Ruby. Yes; that is right. They made all the parts for us and tools and dies for, oh, 10 years or more.
Mr. Hubert. I don’t know if you stated what Mario Anesi’s brother’s name was.
Mr. Ruby. One’s name is Burt, that is how I know him by, Burt, and he has another brother. I don’t even know his name.
Mr. Hubert. Are they all in this company?
Mr. Ruby. Yes; now, Burt could possibly be Umberto, I don’t know, because Burt is an unusual name for Italian people.
Mr. Hubert. And your statement is that your contacts in the last 2 years say with the Anesi’s or the Anson Tool and Manufacturing Company have been as you have stated in regard to the dies and the manufacture of shutters and so on?
Mr. Ruby. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. What about the Triangle Manufacturing Co.? Have you had any contact with that company?
Mr. Ruby. Triangle? What do they make?
I once had a Triangle many years ago that made—I think it is Triangle—made a set of cutting dies for me. I don’t know if it is the same company.