Mr. Hubert. And what was your interest in those products?

Mr. Ruby. That is my brother-in-law.

Mr. Hubert. That is your brother-in-law?

Mr. Ruby. That is the same Elliott Schwartz that you brought up about. That is the company he owns. I mean that is my brother-in-law on the wife’s side.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know an organization or corporation, perhaps just a company, called the James Welch Co.?

Mr. Ruby. James Welch? No.

Mr. Hubert. Would you comment on what knowledge you have of an organization called the Ipsilanti Buffing Co.

Mr. Ruby. Never heard of it.

Mr. Hubert. What about the Public Vending Co.? Do you know of that organization?

Mr. Ruby. No. Are they in Detroit?