Mr. Ruby. I called him for another reason, also. Well, I had to call him and talk about the lease. See, I was taking over, subleasing from the people that were in there before me, so I think I talked to him once or twice.

Mr. Hubert. Coming back to Barney Rothenberg, does it help you any if I suggest that he lives on Genessee Street in Pontiac, Mich.?

Mr. Ruby. No; now, we go Pontiac. Our trucks go to Pontiac. I don’t remember calling him.

Mr. Hubert. Would it be a possibility, then, that that is a customer?

Mr. Ruby. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. Now, what about a man by the name of Sidney Jaffe, who lives in Seattle, Wash.?

Mr. Ruby. Sidney Jaffe?

Mr. Hubert. Yes.

Mr. Ruby. No.

Mr. Hubert. You have no recollection?