Mr. Ruby. I would say altogether maybe as much as $15,000 that I sent him.

Mr. Hubert. And you have never got anything in return for it?

Mr. Ruby. No.

Mr. Hubert. Have you ever written off those loans as bad debts?

Mr. Ruby. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. The income tax return which you hold in your hand there says it is a worthless judgment note. Do you recall that you actually filed the lawsuit against Paul and recovered a judgment which you could not collect?

Mr. Ruby. No; I don’t think——

Mr. Hubert. Do you recall ever hiring any lawyers in Dallas or in the Dallas area for that purpose?

Mr. Ruby. No.

Mr. Hubert. Can you clarify for us in anyway at all what this entry means?