Mr. Ruby. No.

Mr. Hubert. Where is he located now; do you know?

Mr. Ruby. Right now he is in the hospital, Receiving Hospital in Detroit.

Mr. Griffin. What did you do when you heard that?

Mr. Ruby. Well, I was very upset, of course, and he said—I was driving—he said, “You had better pull over to the curb. You just turned white as a ghost.”

So I pulled over for a second or for a few minutes to recuperate my senses, so to speak. And then I said, “I had better take you home,” which I did. Then I went home. I drove home, and I called my sister in Chicago. I don’t even know which one I called. There is two of them. And they knew about it, of course, by that time, too. This was a half hour later and they probably heard it on the air. And they were all upset, of course. And I said, “Well, I had better come to Chicago.” So I called the airport and I flew to Chicago Sunday.

Mr. Griffin. How long did you remain at the cleaning plant after you finished talking with Mike Nemzin?

Mr. Ruby. Just a couple of minutes, just a few minutes.

Mr. Griffin. And what other people were in the plant at that time?

Mr. Ruby. When I talked to Mike Nemzin?