Mr. Ruby. I talked to the family, and I talked to—we talked back and forth so many times. I am talking about Chicago, you know.
Mr. Griffin. Yes.
Mr. Ruby. And I think they were in touch with Dallas. I think Eva and Sam, they were talking back and forth, more or less continually.
Mr. Griffin. Did you have anything to do with getting Mr. Tonahill into the case?
Mr. Ruby. Indirectly; yes.
Mr. Griffin. Let me ask you who you directly got into the case, if anybody?
Mr. Ruby. Belli.
Mr. Griffin. Would you tell us how Mr. Belli came to get into the case?
Mr. Ruby. Jack called. They let him use the phone down there. He talked to me or someone. Anyhow, we were talking about a lawyer then. We were all excited about getting the right lawyer. And he mentioned—I am trying to get it straight in my mind here. Oh, yes; he mentioned somebody wanted some information on his life or something, a life story or something, something to that effect, and he said to contact Mike Shore in California, in Los Angeles, who is a friend of ours, and he was a pretty well known publicity man.
Mr. Griffin. Did you know Mike Shore before you called?