If there are any questions about it why you are free to say anything.
We were talking, it seems to me, that we got you to the point where you had just met Mr. Belli.
Mr. Ruby. Belli, that is right.
Mr. Griffin. Now, I wanted to confine your attention from here on in to certain narrow aspects of your dealings in Los Angeles, and that is your efforts to find financing for Jack’s trial and what the actual financing of the trial is.
Can you tell us, first of all, whether prior to seeing Belli, that day that you were in Los Angeles, you talked to Mr. Shore and Mr. Woodfield at all about the financing of the trial?
Mr. Ruby. Yes; I told them we had to raise money, and I told them Howard gave me a figure of anywhere from $25,000 to $50,000, and I asked them about how much they thought they could obtain from a story, and they said they couldn’t promise 50 but 30, 35, I think that was the figure that Woodfield used.
Mr. Griffin. Would that be the gross figure or would that be what your brother would have ultimately had available from the entire sum for his defense?
Mr. Ruby. That was the figure, the net figure my brother would have left over after they took their commissions and percentage, and the agent’s fee and all of that.
Mr. Griffin. How many people were to share in the proceeds from the sale, beside Jack?
Mr. Ruby. Woodfield, William Woodfield. Larry Shiller, the agent, and then they in turn said they would pay commissions to sales people.