Mr. Ruby. No: I don’t think so. No; I am quite sure he wasn’t.
Mr. Griffin. When that meeting ended there, had there been an agreement——
Mr. Ruby. Excuse me a minute.
I am trying to think if Mike Shore was there. I don’t place him there. I am not sure he was there. I can’t say yes or no to that question.
Mr. Griffin. He might have been there but you are not sure, is that your answer, or is your original answer that he wasn’t there still your best impression.
Mr. Ruby. If my recollection is correct, I think he just met Belli and then left. He had an appointment or something but I am not sure.
Mr. Griffin. What was the conclusion of your talk at that point as to whether Belli would represent Jack.
Mr. Ruby. It wasn’t definite yet. We talked about lawyers and he mentioned what he thinks we ought to do, and psychiatrists we might need—and different things that—he mentioned he would bring in Tonahill. He worked with Tonahill before.
Mr. Griffin. Was that the first time Tonahill’s name was mentioned?
Mr. Ruby. Yes.