Mr. Griffin. Did they go into the defense committee fund? Did these other monies go into the defense committee fund?

Mr. Ruby. Well, they were used for paying the bills, if that is what you mean.

Mr. Griffin. What I am trying to get at is, you say there are two funds, one fund is what you call the newspaper fund——

Mr. Ruby. Well, you see, that—the newspaper—was more or less Jack Ruby’s own fund. He authorized to write the story, and that was more or less his own fund.

Mr. Griffin. I see.

Mr. Ruby. But this is a separate committee that was set up in Chicago, and they got several hundred dollars but we spent—well, on one ad we spent $200 for the ad and we got $205 back—to give you an idea. We kept using the money hoping to get more money in but it didn’t work out too well.

Mr. Griffin. Can you tell us who the members of that defense committee are?

Mr. Ruby. Oh, yes. There is Michael Levin, a lawyer in Chicago, my brother Hyman Ruby, Rubenstein, and Barney Ross, Marty Eritt.

Then there is another one or two in there that I am not too familiar with. But they have got stationery. I don’t have it with me.

Mr. Griffin. What efforts did they make to obtain funds?