Mr. Griffin. How much of a fee did he quote to you at that time?
Mr. Ruby. He was talking about $50,000, if I recall correctly.
Mr. Griffin. Did he quote it to you personally or is this a figure you have learned from somebody else?
Mr. Ruby. No; he quoted it to me.
Mr. Griffin. Now how much——
Mr. Ruby. In other words, it wasn’t a definite figure. He said it could be around, you know.
Mr. Griffin. Have the costs of the investigation for the defense been paid to date?
Mr. Ruby. What do you mean by investigations?
Mr. Griffin. Did the defense hire investigators?
Mr. Ruby. Yes.