Mr. Ruby. Oh, yes.
Mr. Griffin. How much was he paid?
Mr. Ruby. I think we paid him, I am not sure of this figure though, $3,500.
Mr. Griffin. And the remaining funds that have been paid, I take it, have been paid to Mr. Belli?
Mr. Ruby. Belli got, I think, $11,000, if I am not mistaken. Then we paid the doctors, I don’t know, $5,000 or $6,000, you know, the psychiatrists that came down, and some of my expenses came out, just my flight expenses and telephone calls, and who else now?
We gave Burleson some money, he has got, I think, about a thousand dollars that we gave him since the trial. He was supposed to get paid from Belli before. That is the reason we didn’t pay him. However, he claimed Belli never gave him anything. And we paid, like George Senator, the witness, our No. 1 witness, we had to give him money to live on because he was so, what shall I say the word for that, well, he lost his job and he was so upset he couldn’t, you know, he just couldn’t work.
And then we had to pay—he went home and I had to send him airplane fare to come back, you know, and there is——
Mr. Griffin. How about Larry Crafard, did you pay him any money?
Mr. Ruby. Larry Crafard, I think we just gave him a few dollars, $5 maybe because he was broke when he was living on the road, he didn’t have a dime, so I think I gave him some money.
Mr. Griffin. Did Larry incidentally contact you any time while you were in Detroit?