Mr. Griffin. Jack has told you that he read books on the Jewish problems?

Mr. Ruby. Yes; he even went to lectures on it, the synagogue, they had movies of the killings of the Jews in Germany. He went to all of these, things of that sort.

Mr. Griffin. I don’t know if Mr. Hubert has covered this or not, but do you recall an episode or a period back before World War II when Jack showed some concern about the Jewish problem, about the treatment of the Jews?

Mr. Ruby. Before World War II?

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mr. Ruby. You mean—well, he was in Chicago in the early thirties, they had the Nazi Bund meetings and Jack was always one to go and see if he could help break them up.

Mr. Griffin. Did you go on any of these groups?

Mr. Ruby. No, no.

Mr. Griffin. Well——

Mr. Ruby. He was about 4 years older than I am.