Mr. Griffin. Do you recall, this is on another subject, that at one time when you were questioned about why Jack and you had a falling out with respect to Earl Products, that you stated that Jack was not spending full time on the business, and that was one of the reasons?

Mr. Ruby. Well, we didn’t think so. This was Sam’s and my opinion.

Mr. Griffin. Can you tell us what was happening?

Mr. Ruby. Well, we wanted him to sell our products that we were manufacturing, and he was, seemed to be always getting involved with selling somebody else’s product. Of course, there was a commission involved or whatever it was, but I didn’t—we didn’t approve of it. We wanted to push our products and so, of course, he and Sam had a real runout or whatever you call it and then we finally decided to buy him out.

Mr. Griffin. What other products was he selling?

Mr. Ruby. Well, I think he was selling costume jewelry. Well, we don’t manufacture that. We wanted him to devote his entire interest into the company.

Mr. Griffin. Would costume jewelry, could it be considered a companion line for anything you were selling. Would he go into the same stores to sell costume jewelry?

Mr. Ruby. You possibly could, you possibly could, but it was our opinion that he should devote all of his time to our products.

Mr. Griffin. What was Jack’s responsibility in Earl Products?

Mr. Ruby. He was actually the sales manager.